Don’t make the mistake of ignoring student feedback in curriculum reviews

We hand year 11 and 12 students the syllabus. “This is the most important document for this subject,” we say. If we expect students to eat, breathe and live the syllabus, shouldn’t they also have a say when it comes time to review it?

The NSW Education Standards Authority (NESA) is doing a wholesale review of its Stage 6 (year 11 and 12) courses. Teachers and industry will be carefully crafting submissions.

Students, the party with the most skin on this game, won’t be doing the same. But they should have their voice heard.

Ask any year 12 graduate about their syllabi and you’ll have to put a time limit on the conversation. They’ve got a litany of complaints and suggestions; many of which would improve the experience of students studying a subject. Which, if implemented, could motivate them to recommend the course to a peer.

There’s no point asking year 12 graduates to write formal submissions. Instead, what about focus groups or online surveys, with participants facilitated by schools?

Senior syllabi are packed. As an NSW Economics teacher, I would consistently struggle to complete the course to an in-depth level on time. If I felt this pressure, how might students feel as time marched on and dot points remained to do?

When it comes to the syllabus, Let’s hear from the students. And let’s hear from as many as possible — public/private, rural/metro, single sex and coed. The more voices, the better.

I missed my goal ATAR. It was the best thing that happened to me

During Year 12, I had my goal ATAR written just about everywhere. The number was on post-it notes stuck around my room; it was written over and over again in my journal; I even had a palm card with the number that sat  in the pocket of my school shirt. I worked really hard during Year 12 but I did not achieve my ideal mark. I was upset about it then; I’m thrilled about it now.

What was my goal number? I think it was 99.1. My goal was to enroll in an Arts/Law degree at the University of New South Wales. I didn’t get 99.1, I wasn’t offered a place in this degree.

[Fun fact: I think the cut off was closer to 99.9. So, even if I’d hit my goal, I wouldn’t have got in anyway.]

My second choice was a Commerce/Arts degree, also at UNSW. My plan was to start this degree, do really well, and transfer to Arts/Law in second year. But something funny happened. 

I really enjoyed the Commerce part of the degree. The economics subjects were great and gave me the opportunity to explore the content in much more depth. I also took marketing subjects and found them super interesting, with lots of real-world connections. I also had a mix of lecturers and tutors who took an interest in my progress and suggested ways to further develop my skills.

At the end of first year I had no desire to switch degrees. I was happy exactly where I was. 

Here’s the other thing: I had no desire to be a lawyer. I wanted to be a journalist. I was going to do a combined law degree because people suggested a broad degree would help build my knowledge. I could then get practical experience as a journo in the workforce. So why switch to law if I was already doing a broad degree I enjoyed?

Think about this: your ATAR is only one (imperfect) measure.

I’m so old I didn’t have an ATAR. I had a University Admissions Index (UAI). But it’s the same idea as the Australian Tertiary Admissions Rank (ATAR). It’s a rank; it determines if you meet the cut-offs for university courses. 

You may have (or have had) a goal ATAR in mind. That’s a good thing — it’s important to have goals to work toward. But, despite how hard you work, you may miss this goal. And this could be okay. This could be better than okay. If I hadn’t done Commerce/Arts, I wouldn’t have majored in economics. I probably wouldn’t have got to write for the Australian Financial Review. I would not have had the prerequisites to become an economics teacher. 

Missing goals doesn’t feel great in the moment. Yet there can be a bigger picture where a different path leads to experiences and opportunities that you didn’t know were possible. 

Don't worry about your first class. Worry about your first five classes

The first lesson with a new high school class — particularly at a new school — can be nerve wracking. There’s potentially a lot of pressure to ‘get it right’ and ‘set the tone’. My view: don’t worry about getting the first lesson perfect. Instead, have a great plan of attack for the first few classes.

There are so many things to establish when you get a new class. You need to introduce yourself, set behaviour and homework expectations, talk about the content you’ll be working on (and the assessments), learn students’ names and learning tendencies…

It’s a big ask. 

There’s a quote I think about a lot. I heard it from Tony Robbins, but the quote has many authors. The quote goes something like: “people overestimate how much they can achieve in one year, but underestimate how much they can achieve in five years”. 

We can apply this to a new class. It’s challenging to do a lot in class one …but by the end of class five or 10, things can become clearer and patterns more established.

A unifying principle

My goal for the first few classes is to establish myself as an organised and approachable teacher. 

What does being organised mean? I’ve got a plan and I’m working hard to make the class run as smoothly as possible. I’ve got the materials I need. The learning management system (LMS) is setup and regularly updated, including with details of the assessment tasks.

What does being approachable mean? I’m greeting students as they arrive and doing my best to learn about their individual interests. I’ll answer your questions and, if I don’t have the answers, I’ll make a note and follow this up. I’m going to smile and make jokes. I don’t subscribe to the “don’t smile until Easter” theory. 

The first class

My expectations are relatively low for the first class. It’s a new group of students, potentially all unknown, at the start of a fresh school year. 

I’m going to settle the class, welcome everyone and mark the roll. There’s no need for students to go around and introduce themselves. They either know each other or are going to be around each other all day every day. I don’t give students a questionnaire to fill out — I’ll learn about them as the term/year progresses.

I’ll introduce the content for the term and outline the assessment task. We’ll then check out the LMS and do a short activity — tangentially related to the content, definitely engaging — and submit our work on the LMS.

And that’s it. Over the next few classes, we’ll start on the class content. I’ll also get into behaviour and homework expectations, and the consequences of not meeting these.  

But don’t you need to do more in the first class?

After all, doesn’t the first class set the tone?

The first class sets a tone. It doesn’t set the tone. I can always course correct if the class is going off the rails. 

I once had a Year 9/10 class that was very large and very messy. I did a hard reset. I imposed a seating plan. I wrote up more detailed behavioural expectations and printed these out for students. I sent an email home detailing the issues with the class and the steps I’d taken, as well as the consequences for misbehaviour.

You can always take steps to set a new tone. Just ‘tone down’ the importance of the very first class.

Which subject should you pick? First, look at who's teaching it.

During subject selection, students are often told not to select subjects based on the teacher. I can see the logic. If you choose a subject based on the teacher, and then the teacher changes or leaves, what happens then? Still, I think students should pick subjects based on the teacher.

Here’s my logic.

Students look forward to going to class for a teacher they like. Students will listen to a teacher they like. Students will always… Let me try that again. Students can be more likely to do assigned tasks, and go above and beyond for a teacher they like. 

If this argument doesn’t resonate, then flip the situation. How do students perform for teachers they don’t click with?

But what happens if the teacher leaves?

Let’s tackle the key issue here: what happens if the liked teacher moves on? Not an ideal situation but one that’s replicated across so many aspects of life. You take a job based on your potential colleagues, you start, then over time those people leave. How do you respond? Or you invest in a company based on the charismatic CEO and enviable investment returns. The CEO moves on — how do you respond?

It’s like a starting point for decision-making more broadly. You make a decision based on the best available information. Here, you want to study with a specific teacher. If the teacher leaves, you may need to adjust. Maybe you end up dropping the subject; maybe you’re able to take up some private tutoring; maybe you work more closely with a trusted classmate. But you had that time with the respected teacher.

And this can be an incredibly beneficial experience. A liked teacher has the power to encourage students to explore new subjects and interests. I think of my own situation where the economics teacher suggested I study her subject. I appreciated that personal approach and, honestly, the decision to study economics in high school has helped shaped my career more than any other single decision.

This can all be tricky in larger schools

A complicating factor is the experience in bigger schools where many teachers take the same subject. Here, it’s very difficult to guarantee which teacher would have an individual student. In terms of my point, I’m thinking about schools where senior subjects can have only one or two specialist teachers — particularly for a subject like economics.

You’re not perfect. So why pretend to be a perfect teacher?

As a student teacher, new teacher or an experienced teacher at a new school, you might feel the pressure to present a highly polished image.

I suggest you leave this polished image behind. 

Think about it this way. You’ve been (and may still be) a student. Part of being a student is experiencing frustrations, disappointments and the occasional success. You might have even made mistakes — potentially some very notable ones.

Embrace this reality and leave the highly polished image behind. 

In the classroom you can do this by sharing your mistakes with students. In my opinion, great teachers discuss their own mistakes during student interactions. When you’re working with students think about using language such as:

  • “When I did questions like this, here are the typical mistakes I made…”

  • “This is the strategy I used to deal with questions like this. It wasn’t very successful. What I did instead was…”

  • “I didn’t do as well as I wanted to do on a task like this. This was what I did next…”

From a pedagogy perspective, I reckon you’re demonstrating two valuable teaching traits.

  1. You’re modelling good practice. You’re demonstrating the importance of understanding your mistakes and using this information to improve. 

  2. You’re building relationships with students. You’re being honest with your students and discussing your own personal challenges, in a way that’s relevant to them. Hopefully you’re doing this with a good sense of humour.

Your imperfection can be a terrific tool in building rapport with students and helping them view their mistakes in a more positive light.

6 mistakes that new teachers make

These are just six of my favourite mistakes.

1. Being friendly rather than firm

As a new teacher, you’re treading a tough tightrope. On the one hand, you want to be firm and set boundaries. On the other, you want to be friendly and form a report with students.

You may not get this right straight away. Or even in your first year or two. 

The main mistake I see here is that new teachers err on the side of friendly. More ‘friendly’ language would be saying things “guys” when you’re referring to the class, or words like “come on” when you’re trying to get their attention. 

Instead, if you need the class's attention, state the year group. “Year eight,” for example. Also, ask for what you specifically need. For example, “Right now, I need your attention Year Eight. I won’t proceed until I have quiet.” And then wait. Be firm in your commands.

2. Not being friendly enough

Contradictions already!

When I was doing my teacher training I received this piece of advice: “Don’t smile until Easter.”

(For context: in Australia our school year runs calendar year. So we start late Jan and Easter marks the end of first term.)

The advice, “don’t smile until Easter”, is notionally about being firm and not showing a softer side until you’ve embedded some tougher routines. I failed this piece of advice from day one. 

It’s okay to smile, crack jokes and poke fun. But you also need to be firm when it’s required. 

3. Planning worksheets rather than lesson goals

An excellent worksheet can truly make a lesson. One lesson. But what happens next lesson? And then next week?

Spend more time on the lesson goals than the worksheets. Think about:

  • What content should they learn from the lesson?

  • What skills should they develop?

  • What connections should they make between content areas?

Answer these questions first. Then, choose activities that best address these lesson goals. Spoilers: it might not be a worksheet.


4. Being inconsistent with consequences

From an early stage, students should be clear on the major consequences for their actions.

What happens when students don’t complete their homework once? What about the third time? 

How about the consequences for turning up late to class? And if this becomes a habit? 

The point here is that you want students to know that if they do X, Y will happen. There is no negotiation or uncertainty. It’s just the way you’ve structured your classroom.

You might be lucky and the school has developed a set of consequences. Or you may have the flexibility to devise your own. Either way, avoid being inconsistent. That can create extra challenges.

5. Trying to change the organisation too quickly

You arrive at the school and you start to see things that you think should change. Your intentions are good. But your pace is too fast.

Take note of the things you think should be improved. But resist the temptation to try and change them too quickly. Over time, there’s the possibility you can make adjustments. Right now, just know that organisations tend to change very slowly — particularly when the suggestions come from very new staff members.


6. Continually questioning your career choice

Stop asking yourself whether you should have become a teacher.

During my first year of teacher, I continually questioned my decision. Every bad day would be another prompt to ask: “Should I have become a teacher?”

It’s not a helpful question. You’re here now. Give yourself a period of time before you really interrogate whether you should continue. 

The constant questioning will undermine your confidence and motivation. So try and avoid it.


Bonus tip: Be helpful 

This is my advice for prac teachers but is very useful for new teachers too. Check it out below.

My top number one best ever tip for student teachers

My absolute top tip is to be helpful.

This particularly applies to working with your supervising teacher.

Think about it this way: this is your professional placement. But this is your supervising teacher’s job. 

There may be a range of goals you’ve got as a student teacher. You might want to teach a senior Modern History class, practice certain literacy techniques or observe a particular teacher and so on.

You have goals. Your supervising teacher has a job. They will likely do whatever they can to accommodate your goals. But they have to weigh this against the various responsibilities and requirements of their ongoing job.

If you think about it, your time at this school, in this role, is time limited. Your supervising teaching will still be there after you’ve left (at least for a period of time).

So while you’ve got your goals in mind, your supervising teacher has to take a bigger picture view.

Given this, my top piece of advice to student teachers is to be helpful

Do your best to help your supervising teacher do their job. When you’re a qualified teacher, you’ll be in control and able to do things as you’d like. Here, someone else is in control so you should focus on ways that you can assist.

An example in point. Let’s say you’re really keen on teaching that senior Modern History class. But your supervising teacher has asked you to teach a junior Geography class instead. What do you do?

Let’s say you insist on teaching the Modern History class. How might the supervising teacher respond? 

Or let’s say you agree to do the junior class, but you’re very reluctant to do it. How might the supervising teacher respond to this?

It’s no guarantee but when you’re helpful, others may be inclined to be helpful to you too. It’s worth thinking about. 

Rather than going into your prac placement with a checklist of goals to hit, go in with one super objective — to be helpful.

The trouble with giving back marks

Imagine you work in a corporate job and your manager has some important feedback to give you. 

Your manager books a conference room. They send you some agenda items — ahead of time — of what they want to discuss. They dedicate a significant portion of the meeting to hearing your side of things. 

Following the meeting, your manager sends you a summary of what you’ve discussed and specific ways for you to improve. 

Now imagine you’re a Year 12 student receiving an assessment task back. 

You’re one of many nervous students in a classroom. Your teacher has given you no prior warning of your result. Your teacher gives a long preamble about how certain things were done well but there are many areas to improve and that, if you’re all serious about success, you should be…and so on.

Then you’re given your exam with the mark on it. Remember: you’re still in a room with many peers. You might get the chance to briefly discuss your performance; you might not. 

You might also have to wait for the teacher to start going through the whole exam before you can get to the question you’d like to clarify. 

This whole process is not ideal for students or teachers.

Can we do this differently?

It’s very difficult to give individualised feedback to students on their assessment tasks. 

I once got students to book times with me to receive their assessment task and get personal feedback. The only reason I could do this is that I had a class of 10. Clearly this is not feasible with a larger class.

I feel great tension when giving back marks. I know how important the marks are to students, particularly in Year 12. Personally, I know how valuable individualised feedback is, especially when it’s delivered one on one. Yet the opportunities to do this are rare and will likely impinge significantly on teachers’ time. 

I can hear your voice in my head: what’s the alternative? 

Remote learning forced a change

During 2021, we returned to remote learning during the Trial Higher School Certificate examinations. These are the big practice exams before the actual HSC. They are also assessable. 

Due to remote learning we had to conduct the trials and deliver feedback online. I had to scan all the marked papers and email them to students. I liked the process. I emailed the exams in advance of the class so they had a day or so to read over them and consider my feedback.

It also allowed them to do all the noisy comparing of marks BEFORE we got to the classroom. This was a huge relief for me. 

We’re back to face-to-face learning in 2022 but I’m continuing this process. For my most recent Year 12 task, I’ve marked and then scanned the papers. I’ll then upload them to Microsoft OneNote and email all students that their marked work is ready to view.

I’ll do the regular exam review once we get to class, going through key questions and providing general feedback. I’ll also dedicate some class time to individual queries but I use a formal review process for assessment tasks (which I’ll share in another blog post).

Does this process work?

I’m not sure of the precise answer to this question. 

What I do know about the process:

  • It’s less public. If students don’t want to share their marks, they don’t have to. 

  • In fact, it’s private. Students can read over their responses and my feedback by themselves, outside of the pressure of the classroom.

  • It changes the nature of the class. It’s less about getting marks back and more about discussing their answers. 

  • It’s time consuming for me. I’ve got another step of scanning and emailing.

I’m collating some student feedback so I’ll have that to share in time. But this process might be worth a try if you’re looking for another way of giving back marks at school.

Students don't lose marks

The student points to their exam paper, their finger sits right on top of their scrawled handwriting. They ask you:

“So, where did I lose marks?”

I find this question so frustrating. It’s like some students think they acquire a bunch of marks (sometimes even full marks) and then teachers pick away marks. Or that they start with full marks and then…I’m not sure. 

I’d like students to see things differently. I’d like them to see it more from my perspective. My perspective being:

As a teacher, I’m always looking to award marks. I’m never looking to remove marks. 

Marking is like building a house

Let’s expand on this idea. I try to communicate to students that, when I’m marking, I’m thinking of a house. The student starts with nothing, zero, a genuine greenfield development. Each element of their response creates the levels of the house — right up to a finished product. 

No-one’s “losing” marks here. To achieve full marks, students need to gain marks by demonstrating a true top-quality response. Every part of the response — each sentence, idea, quote, statistic, example, detail, connection to the stimulus — needs to go toward answering the question.

Each element of the response needs to add to the ‘house’. Any waffle or extraneous information will be ignored and not eligible for marks.

It could be helpful to think about the world of debating. In debates, adjudicators award points for the most relevant and compelling arguments. If an adjudicator hears an argument that just doesn’t land, they don’t remove marks. They don’t award marks. They simply ignore the comment. 

Same same for exam responses. If a student includes irrelevant information, it’s not eligible for marks. It’s insufficient to gain marks.

Spend LESS time on lesson planning (advice for student teachers)

One of the most difficult jobs in teaching is being a student teacher. It’s demanding, busy and stressful — a nightmare combination. Where you can you find some respite?

My suggestion: spend less time planning your lessons. 

This is one my favourite suggestion for prac teachers. It’s also the suggestion that’s most often rejected by people. 

To an extent, I get it. You might want to prove yourself by creating high-quality lessons, chock-full of relevant content and a range of engaging activities. You might want to incorporate different forms of technology and experiment with things. You might also want to create a range of worksheets from scratch, uniquely tailored to your class.

I say all of this because I’ve been there. I remember being on prac and staying up really late cutting out paragraphs and pasting them to ice cream sticks. The funniest part: I cannot remember why I was even doing this. 

Prac is a real marathon. You don’t want to burn out. Here’s a way to ease your efforts.

Spend less time on your lesson plans

My main suggestion: spend the same time as your lesson to plan your lesson.

(So: for a one hour lesson, take around an hour to plan it.)

Let’s say you’ve got a one hour lesson. Here’s how I’d plan it:

  • Spend 20ish minutes organising the content you’re going to teach. Create a brief PowerPoint to outline how you’ll present this in class.

  • Take 25ish minutes to select and organise an activity. This could be used to create a worksheet. Here I’d strongly suggest adapting an existing worksheet, or just straight up use pre-existing resources (either from your supervising teacher or colleague).

  • Spend around 10 minutes working out how you’ll wrap up the lesson and list some ideas for what you’d do in the next class.

Y’all can disagree here. But I reflect on my prac experience where I spent hours planning single lessons and, to be honest, didn’t always feel that was time well spent.  Check out the video below for more info.